The CDC issued a no-sail order in U.S. waters on March 14 one day after the industry. These are limited to 3.4 ounces (100 milliliters) or less per item. Yet they pay, through their time and treasure, for the billion searches performed in search of contraband and weapons. There is more time spent in security waiting for a human to look at the images on the screen than any other process. As a crew member it's disappointing to hear that KCM may be going away. Are you EOD now? Maybe a probationary period before they are eligible, idk. I thought you were a former twitter employee, not an airline pilot. Are you mad that they didn't let them go? This is just going to exacerbate the problem of long lines and lack of precheck in multiple terminals, You can even point to this as a reason for the insane crowding at lounges were seeing. If the TSA's job isn't to catch drugs, then I'm not exactly sure what this will accomplish. I know that this isn't going to be a popular suggestion, but let take the flight attendants out of the program and let the pilots have the program. Work closely with your union or become a rep to improve work rules and pay at your airline to make respecting your job more appealing. /5FR_+`aj` H xX The current system is broken beyond repair at the moment. Stop worrying about pilots in flight, attendants and worry about every other employee. I was impressed with KCM at SFO the other day. I'll bet you're very good at stacking pillows and blankets around something you'll never find. Effective March 31, 2022, the TSA will require KCM eligible crewmembers to scan a KCM-issued barcode card when utilizing a KCM access point. Youre right though, losing KCM is the least of their problems; however, Full disclosure- Im a flight attendant, and its frustrating to lose this privilege because of crew members who dont follow the rules. When it was in this form, there were virtually no problems. "TSA PRE-CHECK" line where most do not have to remove their shoes or take laptops out of bags - yay. To operate as a CAP Solo Pilot, the member must possess a valid student pilot certificate, or in the case of a pilot transitioning to another aircraft category, at least an FAA Private Pilot certificate in another category and/or class of aircraft, and appropriate solo endorsements from a CAP Instructor Pilot for the make and model aircraft flown. For everyones information, so long as the plane is on there is no need to have pilots on board while boarding passengers. An aircraft can board without a pilotbut not without the minimum crew of flight attendants.. and considering how long our duty days are, I don't know any flight attendants willing to leave their layover hotel a couple hours earlier. Care to share that photo to back up your claims? Also keep in mind that when returning to active status there will be a delay in updating your status to active which may result in your inability to use KCM access. There are 24,000 flight attendants just at my airline. It's not at all fair to the crew members who do the right thing. You dont have flight attendants so have no special procedures during flight. I am not trying to disparage flight attendants, of course they are important but they are not the same as pilots and there are multiple rational grounds for distinguishing between them. Hmm, your story sounds fishy. That is actually the reason why some of us Flight attendant give attitude when random, not for the process itself but for the attitude of lots of like you who you can tell from far that don't care about either passenger of Flights. Career term differences may be different in your eyes, but its all in the eye of the beholder & YOU dont determine VALUE or WORTH! Drugs and Medicine prohibited by the FDA; Distilled spirit absinthe (except certain diluted brands) Merchandise from embargoed countries; Items made with Dog and . #3 is DEN - they do a secondary screening where they swipe the crew member's hands and test the swab in a machine. We shouldn't put anything pass anybody. My concern for flight attendants would be the TSA liquid limits. All Crew Members transiting a KCM portal are subject to random screening. Everyone should be screened. Ive been going through regular security when I arrive at the airport at my home base just to avoid the bother of being sent there anyway. Imagine having to go through security and adding extra unpaid time to your job every time you went to work. The following transportation security, regulatory and/or statutory violations result in a disqualification: NOTE: The majority of KCM access point disqualification cases involve attempted access for personal international travel, transporting the property of another individual through a KCM access point, and carrying prohibited items. The TSAs job is not to look for drugs or identify other illegal activity. 5The Known Crew Member program enables TSOs to positively verify the identity and employment status of flight-crew members who have joined the program and provide expedited access to the sterile area of the airport for properly identified and verified, uniformed crewmembers. You also clearly dont know what youre talking about if youre suggesting to not screen pilots. b. This isnt the 1980s anymore. Stay in your busted vehicle because I can tell by the way you type youre a bum at best. The second most common hard skill for a mcdonalds crew member is food orders appearing on 29.2% of resumes. On the other, my spouse is a F/A for Southwest. Cabin Readiness Safety & Compliance Reminder! I guarantee if you're a flight attendant reading this you've said "oF cOuRsE I diD!" 1) Its pretty insulting to trash the time & money spent. As a 30 year career airline pilot, I have a vested interest in protecting my career, so do all of the other pilots I fly with taking security seriously. . I got secondary screening and they did it right there at the crew line (which they do in other countries) they just wipe your hands and suitcase and test it. Your flight will be delayed while we get screened. Unfortunately, due to the dubious actions and agendas of a few, here we are. And several times I have seen PILOTS attempting to bring their family members through KCM and then throw a hissy fit when theyre told no. I get to see both sides of this equation. No one would do it. (I hear at home On the one hand, I've spent the last 16 years+ working for TSA. Get ready for crew members to be cutting in front of you everywhere ! Meanwhile with all this new increase of Random checks I've been bypassing KCM and just doing the regular line. Yesterday when I went through TSA pre-check, i beeped walking through the detector even though I had nothing in my pockets or that I was wearing that should have beeped Im a flight attendant and Ive been random 18 times out of 22 since I started counting in January. Q: What should I do if I encounter a TSA screening officer who does not seem to be applying the KCM requirements correctly? As for their excuse as to why theyre increasing random security checks, its kind of a dumb argument. Too bad a few more here can't grasp the insight you just provided for them. If youve not got anything productive to say, just focus on flying the plane. Protective Security Officer (PSO)is a member of a protective security force and an element of a security post who has the training, equipment . KCM is a privilege, not a right. Failure to submit to screening at the passenger screening checkpoint (e.g., using a SIDA badge to avoid screening) is considered circumvention of screening, and TSA may take enforcement action in accordance with the KCM Disqualification Protocols (KCMDP). Try it and cry later.. And I mean to the VERY front, all the way to the front of the belt. The Airlines and the TSA needs to punish the people that commit the crimes, and not just put out a blanket change that punishes the 99.9% of the pilots and flight attendants that follow the rules. Blame is on BOTH sides of the door. AFA International | "First responders" L.O.L. Weren't we all background checked by FBI and other Federal Agencies to be issued this ID ? This is going to cause more time people wait in line and people already hate it when crew members arrive late to the aircraft. If you don't like going through security, then commercial aviation is not the right job for you. Did you mean minutes? How is that a thing??? They're the offenders over and over. As of publication, at least 922 crew members have been infected and at least 11 have died from COVID-19. lap-top computers, camcorders, when carried by passengers or crew for personal use. Known Crewmember What You Need To Know! That is not correct. This enhanced process leverages current technology to provide an effective and cost-efficient solution. The Port Agent will arrange transportation to the ship's next port of call. Once you receive the barcode card, follow the instructions on the back to register it into the KCM system. Not airport staff and crew check point. "Y'all fucked around and found out". Your password can't be a commonly used password. Today's airline management and unions only care that the males can wear the female uniforms, makeup, tattoos, or fingernail polish, because it keeps the "price down". MNM8[@w1\J2t_ig VIgM]0%b"fM The KCM program was initially developed by ALPA, FOR PILOTS. All air carrier employees are subject to TSA screening practices conducted within sterile areas, which include roving screening teams and/or random gate screening. Ultimately, you will work with other employees and managers to ensure projects are completed on time and that our organization hits its goals. 0000007057 00000 n That's right. Hours? We also hoped it would inform and deter travelers from packing prohibited items in their own carry-on and checked bags. He clearly doesnt do this on the day yo day and sounds dumb. And not punish the rest of us. If you are an Employee or an Administrator (DER) please enter the information below to have a password reset emailed to you. Am I not mistaken, but in many other parts of the world, do the pilots and FAs not just simply present to the front of the general security queues? Most helpful comments ( as chosen by the OMAAT community ). So in reality anyone who come into the airlines as an employee. Known Crew Members (KCM) Lanes KCM ties airline employee databases together in a seamless way and enables Transportation Security Administration (TSA) security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of crew members. 0000003052 00000 n The BCAS (Bureau of Civil Aviation Security) have come out with an advisory declaring locally made Power bank as prohibited item not permissible for carriage on person, hand baggage and Check-In baggage, and air cargo consignment. This was discipline issued by the carrier and documented by TSA. Dont worry about that connecting flight in Denver thanks. So it's not that they don't understand the reputation-restricted nature of items; it's that they have the rep and still can't buy the items. Is air travel going to get even MORE expensive? Scissors with blade length less than 4 inches . Known Crewmember has been a wonderful privilege. You also are aware that pilots have had their fair share of violations with kcm too, right? Too much education, and not enough accountability. It is suggested that you print your pass prior to entering the sterile area. While I am an airline pilot, I fly for a major cargo airline and thankfully dont have to deal with the incompetent TSA smurfs. c. May not access the sterile area through the KCM access point if any portion of their travel itinerary includes personal international travel. I'll be signed in and ready for work whenever. To my knowledge its not that many. My favorite is from all these so called pilots . GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe pilots should stop bringing their guns to work. Report: TSA Ending Known Crewmember Program In 2023 Ben Schlappig Published: November 30, 2022 Updated: December 4, 2022 201 While exact details remain to be seen, it would appear that airline pilots and flight attendants may have to consistently start going through airport security as of next year In this post: A:Airlines for America (A4A) has received some reports of crewmembers experiencing technical difficulties while trying to activate a KCM account or register a KCM barcode card on themykcmsupport.comwebsite.. Crewmembers that experience technical difficulties while either activating an account or registering a KCM barcode card should contact the KCM service provider directly atkcmsupport@arinc.com. We KCM should be 100% allowed for pilots there is a MASSIVE difference in career terms and pay between pilots and FAs. Exactly Mr. DeKnob! I don't really care if literally the whole crew, all my fellow passengers, and TSA are all smuggling drugs on every flight so long as I get where I'm headed. It's not my business what a person freely chooses to put in their own bodynor is it government's business. It does appear the supercilious author of this piece, pulled out his Medallion Card and showed it to the whole worldeven if to mostly blame impoverished flight attendants for being drug mules? On the one hand, I've spent the last 16 years+ working for TSA. TSA might not be perfect but I would rather have them then not. That should have never been allowed any more than ground workers could access special security lines when traveling. Do you know how to build an LRBL at 17,500 feet ? The FAA in their infinite wisdom starting requiring flight attendants to have an FAA Airman certificate several years ago. As a 121 passenger pilot, this would push me to go fly cargo, it would be too much of a hassle to go through normal security. Hotel and Transportation Issues We Need Facts! A few extra minutes of my time isnt going to matter that much. This is not a U.S. government site. So much so, that I usually just go to security line. Your anger and frustration brings me joy. IATA - Personalised Passport, Visa & Health travel documentation advice Its harassment as far as Im concerned its very frustrating to go through this every time you come to work. But only if you're nice. And those are not small. I was next and was told I need further screening tho I did not ring told FA cannot be further screened so I have to be screened??? Like other airline workers dont use a SIDA badge and go through another entrance. Blame it on the flight attendants, but oh the pilots wouldn't try to smuggle anything. Then to say the flight attendants can make a few runs and make their salary. And then throwing a hissy fit when they are not allowed to do what they already know 100% they are not allowed to do? Then there are the handful who do things they shouldn't do, that are making it a lot harder for everyone else. In my opinion and observations, many of the violations that have occurred in recent years have been new flight attendants (at a entry level pay scale) that have little to lose by sneaking things through KCM. 0000005203 00000 n It is suggested that you print your pass prior to entering the sterile area. Life rafts are located on Deck 7 . KCM was a tremendous privilege these years we enjoyed it. BTW! 2) You want to make the people who cross umpteen timezones for your safety stand around like the rest of you cheap cattle car bovines, watch crews take their sweet time at the back of the two hour A lot of money from pilot dues was spent by the Air Line Pilots Association to help get the Known Crew Member program going. Carriage of another individuals property through the KCM portal to circumvent screening is prohibited. How many pilots have been caught smuggling? History is not saved for crewmembers without a mykcmsupport.com account. You idiots change the security process based on whether or not crew have a certain shirt on. {uyn1j~_L;t26mHMSY%?kbS&eGo?3/_fbd^`Gv`!=XYX+\GGGGGGEES%%%%%%y;`-^Sc;_y^1}iF3 I agree with you about flight attendants vs pilots. xb```b``AX,n_8ya*d0)ZJR 2 70H@ The "Flight Attendants" column denotes airlines whose Flight Attendants are eligible to participate in the KCM program. However, it is the responsibility of crew to pay these transportation costs. What? 0000004686 00000 n Celebrating 21 Years of AFA E-Lines and Debrief, Delta pilots approve new contract with 34% raises, Delta Pilots Approve Contract Raising Pay by 34%. So, what is even closer scrutiny Crewmembers are subject to a federal background check and fingerprinting as a result of 9/11. The government-approved Known Crewmember (KCM) program allows Flight Attendants and Pilots at many airlines to enjoy the convenience of an expedited security screening. Also, I would like to point out, that after speaking with multiple TSA supervisors, pilots were identified as the issues and are the reason for the increase in random screenings. But of course, they would have to pay them more. The flight attendants are required to be there before the rest of the crew because they are the ones needed to board passengers. Have anyone seen how TSA Employees (as well as LEOs )gain access to the secured sterile areas of any of our nation's airports around the country? Same as everyone in front of me. If your crew-member record is SPOTLESS, your random screening should be much much less. ORD uses outdated screening methods that are so medieval, I am guessing someone up top is pocketing government funding in lieu of updating their screening methods at this locale. 0000001314 00000 n Do exactly the opposite. I think the KCM program is complete bullshit. And since you're so hung up on logistics, you should be able to comprehend that people in positions of need will more likely risk activities such as drug smuggling. Making all of us lose this privilege will soon tax tsa, delay flights and and expand misconnects. Goose step much Herr Pee Brain? I'm sorry but I simply do not want to allow anyone to be able to conduct any illegal activity via aviation; the drug crisis in the US is horrific and anyone that wants to protect their personal privileges to allow someone else to profit and kill others should simply not have those privileges. Keyboard warrior.. U must be u spirit employee yo shizzie fly attendant yo. I will however, proceed to explain that there is a necessity to have minimum crew on board to board passengers which I do realize you do not deal with. b. You have basic first aid. Report: TSA Ending Known Crewmember Program In 2023, My take on TSA Known Crewmember Program changes, How To Check TSA PreCheck Hours & Availability, Yuck: TSA Finds Gun Hidden In Raw Chicken, Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners, On the one hand, I do think its time that some changes are made to the Known Crewmember Program, purely based on the number of people who have abused it, On the other hand, fully screening pilots and flight attendants will take up more TSA resources and could lead to longer lines at security; furthermore, the TSA isnt actually very good at finding hidden objects, At least in the case of pilots, I think screening is kind of unnecessary, since theyre flying the plane, and if they wanted to do something, Ultimately I also get the argument that the TSA isnt there to stop drugs, but rather to stop weapons; that being said, if someone is smuggling kilos of cocaine and fentanyl, getting that off the streets (or out of the skies) doesnt seem like a bad thing. Also allowing them to use this when they are off duty is the other problem. Then there are the handful who do things they shouldn't do, that are making it a lot harder for everyone else. Thanks to the right wing gun nuts that cant tell a difference between their flight bag and a range bag. Which is handing out band-aids and pressing buttons on an AED.after the machine TELLS you to. Legally, TSA searches are on thin ice with respect to the 4th Amendment. All Crewmembers transiting a KCM portal are subject to random screening. In May 2007, the TSA approved the first version of an alternate screening method called the Crew Personnel Advanced Screening System (CrewPASS). Unless traveling where you go through security like everyone else. Pilots have a lot more to lose (significant investment in their career, inability to easily switch to a different field with similar compensation, licenses, etc) than flight attendants do. Crewmembers will be met by a TSA Security Officer (TSO) who will ask for a KCM barcode card and the appropriate identification requirements (see above). In some instances, generally involving prohibited items, the TSA is authorized by federal regulation to use a streamlined procedure and no LOI will be issued. As a Flight Attendant I support keeping it for the pilots. I honestly don't give a flying beep about ending KCM. Pilots are not, and haven't been the problem. hungama 2 box office collection Failure to submit to screening at the passenger screening checkpoint (e.g., using a SIDA badge to avoid screening) is considered circumvention of screening, and TSA may take enforcement action in accordance with the KCM Disqualification Protocols (KCMDP). Flight attendants have the weapons they need readily available: cockpit access and a bottle of wine from the galley. Keep dreaming. trailer It is only there to prevent security threats to aviation, originally hijacking then terrorist attacks. The more international travelers know about what to expect, the easier and quicker the process becomes. This enhanced identity-verification and employment-confirmation system for airline pilots will make airport checkpoint screening more efficient for all who depend on air transportation by removing airline pilots from passenger screening lines. This enhancement will include retention of the crewmember selection for USP for a period of time at all KCM access points in that airport. 0000006114 00000 n A: The Known Crewmember Program KCM is a risk-based system that enables TSA security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of authorized crewmembers. A KCM denial could result from a database error that is nonspecific to you, or it might involve a miscommunication with your air carrier. 0 Prior to the Known Crewmember program and their dedicated lines, it was not uncommon to spend 10-15 minutes being delayed as crew after crew cut in line to be screened before the regular users. It is incorporated for crewmembers protection and to ensure the integrity of the system. INSANE makes NO sense to me No problem. When it was expanded to include flight attendants, we almost immediately saw issues developing. Crewmembers are subject to a federal background check and fingerprinting as a result of 9/11. 0000057216 00000 n She'll sometimes get that friend who says, "Hey, can you take my nephew's laptop to the United States to that our friend over there can take it to get repaired/exchanged at the store where he bought it." The neck tattoo guy isn't. Ukraine Prohibited and Restricted Items FedEx Cross Border is unable to ship prohibited and non-approved restricted items on behalf of its customers. Battery-powered electronic smoking devices, such as "e-cigarettes, e-cigs, e-cigars, e-pipes, e-hookahs, personal vaporizers, electronic nicotine delivery systems," can be brought as carry-on items only. Review: EgyptAir Lounge Cairo Airport (CAI), Lufthansas Boeing 787 Business Class: Exactly As Expected. Some times 10 or 15 TSA screeners at the same time. Anyway, Im curious to see what the new procedure looks like.
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