Thats my life.. Shes attracted the help of writer Tammy Mal (full name Tammy Malinowski OReilly), author of Convenient Suspect, a book about the case. It wasnt aimed at any one video producer. Perhaps that would lessen your fright. In another peculiar turn of events, LAPD had failed to preserve the evidence when Jerome Scotts body was found two days after his murder. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. (McIntyre said that Egan ignored Traupman because he was a nut who said that the man he saw arguing with the woman in a car was Hispanic but wearing a fake mustache and a toupee. DALLAS Yaser Said, once listed as one of the most wanted men in America, has been found guilty of killing his two teenage daughters. The fact that there is LITERALLY NO EVIDENCE that Patricia was actually obsessed with Andy; they spoke as friends maybe twice a year. Her sister stated shed had a religious obsession since she was a child. At the time of the killings, police said that there had been domestic problems in the family and that they were exploring all possible motives for the slayings. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. And about the only thing from your comment with which I can agree, is you saying thats not proof theyre right in reference to their verdict. So whats your point (other than many people are stupid and you arent)? Everyone lies. no blood, no finger-prints and no soil evidence it was as if the car had been wiped clean stated the attending investigating police officer!That itself has to be considered highly suspicious and cast doubt on the hair evidence which WAS found. They were able to match 5 hairs all the same micro DNA which happened to match the DNA pulled from blood samples Pat gave. The trial was taking so much of my time. Addressing Patricia Prue, Judge Robert Bent said the sentence of life without parole was "fitting" since she was a full participant in the crime. (Disclaimer: Im not a big fan of eyewitnesses who come forward years after the fact, but its possible). "Please do the right thing for Melissa.". True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. Rest in peace Joann and Alex. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports, The Lindbergh Kidnapping: Forensic Files Lost Episode, Dawn Fehring: A Missionary Dies Too Young, Joanne Chambers and Paula Nawrocki: Strange Lesson. After the guilty verdict was pronounced, the defense learned that a report from a state psychologist was not given to the jury. Puny policy. Three Strikes holds dying innocent woman behind bars: Justice for Patricia Wright I am outraged at the rush to judgment displayed by the LAPD, wrote Michelle Alexander, civil rights attorney and author of the influential book, The New Jim Crow. 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But Im sure that was just a coincidence LOL. Yassein and Islam Said face up to 30 years in federal prison. The fact that Jerome was gay was left out of the trial altogether. Andrew mentioned to police that his former live-in girlfriend Patricia Rorrer once managed a horse stable two miles from the bodies location and would have been familiar with the riding trails close to the murder scene. WebTexas-born Patricia ("Tissie) Said, formerly of the Owens family, is the mother who lured her two teenage daughters, Sarah and Amina, to their deaths at the hands of their own father But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. 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To prove it 110% rather than just 99% I dont know why they wouldnt retest the hair fibers etc. An infant was lying face down on her stomach. So the issue that he was picking up men in downtown Los Angeles was irrelevant to the case although that couldve been a lead to the killer. She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. "I don't have any mercy for that lady," Blasczyk said, referring to Patricia Prue. Pat will spend the rest of her natural life in prison where people like her belong. His defense team raised concerns about what they considered a lack of evidence during closing arguments. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two daughters in 2008. She was always looking for a fight, Gary Gabard told the Morning Call, which noted that he was a head shorter than Patricia. His favorite rattle, shaped like a phone, lay near the crime scene. And she would just call out of the blue., According to the Free Patricia Rorrer page on Facebook:I called him to let him know that I was going to the USA finals for a horse show. He took two tests and there was deception detected in BOTH. The LAPD alleged that Patricias motive was to get Jeromes insurance money, which had a value of $30,000. So where they alive somewhere, and if so how could of Patricia, who was questioned, with not one mark on her kill them? So much of it, it would take all day to elaborate here. Were suppose to ignore the actual forensic evidence and forensic opinions because we were told that a cop overheard her claiming she confessed? After all, justice has been served in the eyes of the law, so why go on demonising her? Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. Another inaccuracy in this is, they state the jury took SIX HOURS to return a verdict, when in fact it took less than TWO HOURS. Entries in Patricia Prue's journal included vague descriptions of a joint fantasy that she and Allen Prue shared and were looking to fulfill. I wonder, did they ever perform a DNA test on the baby, to verify paternity? I was like OK, maybe she was tired, you know with a new baby. This information was never revealed to Rorrers defence. When they were getting ready to drive away, a police car pulled up behind them and checked their car. Patricia Prue to undergo 2nd competency exam, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. I didnt read anything in this article that convinced me I didnt like that the lab had a bad rep and I do agree the police lie and frame people sometimes so I cant say 100% she did it or not. It took jurors about three hours to convict Said for the deaths of his daughters Amina and Sarah in 2008. Interesting points thanks for writing in (and, yikes, those poor deer that starve to death). At one point Interpol had an extremely similar case in which an individual convinced a friend, who had been his sexual partner several times in the past, to kill the woman he had a baby with, on the grounds that the child is not his and he does not love her but cannot leave because everyone would accuse him of abandoning his child and his family name would be affected. You, however, consider your ill-informed opinion superior to them not only that, you then go to great lengths to belittle them. Special prosecutor Patricia Brown Holmes said, even though her side didn't win any convictions, the case still helped make police more accountable. I hope she suffers and goes insane from loneliness. Roughly nine months ago, Interpol contacted the police department that kept her file open. Do you realize that Patricia was only found and arrested more than six months after the murder? Stable situation. It was like living in your room and getting to go to your kitchen for one hour a day, remembers Larry Wright. Those that think that Patricia is innocent are simply groping at straws. It was winter which are cold in PA and would slow down decomposition and minimize insect activity although you are correct about the rodentswhy were there none? neither her nor there couldnt be linked to her. For goodness sake, it was never proved at her trial she used the gun the police so steadfastly offered as evidence or for that matter, ANY OTHER GUN. All the sources said the same thing either exposure or suffocation, but no certainty about which one. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. He would be alive today if it were not for Patricia Rorrer. The mild-mannered Sarah died in 2019 at the age of 83. His father confirmed his alibi that they were doing construction work together, putting an addition on the house of friends Tom and Kathy Holschwander, at the time of Joanns disappearance. But let me say in my defence, I have not attacked anyone on this particular site with outright rudeness, to which you allude, albeit some of them deserved a retort of some substance. Yassein Saids sentencing has been set for June 4. Had there been a switch? I believe in Patricias innocence and she deserves to be freed, at last! Nataly is the lead writer on Curious Texas and a breaking news reporter. One more thing acquire ALL the facts about this case If you can read. By clicking Sign Up, I confirmthat I have read and agreeto the Privacy Policy and Terms of Service. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. The Charley Project offers details of the womans life before she went missing: She walked throughout the city, approaching strangers and telling them shed had a vision of the Virgin Mary and the world was about to end. A man was convicted Thursday of helping to hide a brother who was accused of murdering his teenage daughters in Irving more than 12 years ago, the U.S. Attorneys Office announced. I want to keep the tons of old jewelry but Im perplexed. Plus a FB group that I was in included some people who grew up with her and they confirmed that she was indeed a horrible mean person who was easily enraged and always looking for a fight. Liesbeth Powers/The The Innocence Project has declined to take her case. How about the mix up with the hair and the fact that it was not forensically tested (outside of the one man who compared the hairs through naked eye). Not gender neutral. In North Carolina, she reportedly enjoyed some success as a horse trader, riding instructor, and rodeo competitor. Im quite happy to accept that ANYONE who makes a TV documentary makes it for money. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. If you subscribe to Hulu and upgrade to Starz (theres a free one-week trial offer), you can stream the Wrong Man episodes about Patricia Rorrer. Her husband, Mark McCloskey, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor fourth degree assault and was fined $750. Why is this even a question, why people are trying to take out killers into society? How so? After reading this forum and hearing the details of this case, Iowa sure seems a lot fairer in my eyes. Under supervision of a doctor, 39 hair specimens were removed, recorded and logged. Whatever the truth is. I also communicated with Patricia via email to get her input on some matters. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. They told him that if he testified against his sister, Patricia, he would be able to get out of prison sooner. Thats all for this post. ), And in another bombshell, Joanns good friend Karen Devine said Joann planned to leave Andrew after the holidays. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. Patricia and her husband broke up after the babys death. Conflicting versions. Microconidia DNA, as long as the strand is one inch long they can pull the DNA from that. 2023 www.burlingtonfreepress.com. Re Routier, the claim that she inflicted a potentially fatal injury on herself by no means indicates another perp: she could have inflicted it in ignorance, as a suicide attempt, or in a semi-psychotic state. For more on the Katrinak murder case, you can watch Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction for free on YouTube. She should have received the death penalty imo. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two teenage daughters Amina and Sarah in 2008. If you look at the crime scene picture, only parts of the mother seem preserved. During Patricias hours-long turn in the witness chair, Michael McIntyre grilled her relentlessly. Joanns first husband, New Jersey construction worker Michael Jack, who had reportedly abused her during their marriage, also had a solid alibi. As to her duration on death row, no: inference cannot be made as to her guilt as theres a woman with about the same time (Holberg) and another with almost as much. How do you explain her not telling the truth to the authorities about the gun and its flaw of only able to shoot once and then jamming up. The women testified last week. OK my GUESS is Patricia did do it! Its sad that some people just cant move on and continue to feel that what they want is going to be THEIRS regardless. It was her father, Yaser Said who committed the crime of killing his two innocent teen daughters. Did Patricia ever take a lie detector test? pTq r |G.H=IO-I7`,|&m2tj1Lo;{~}squ_~zpMq7 No charmed life.